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		<title>By: fbz</title>
		<link>http://www.robotskirts.com/2007/12/18/language-barrier/comment-page-1/#comment-111706</link>
		<dc:creator>fbz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 00:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think it&#039;s fabulous that you are not just visiting the country, but also hanging out in places where the waitress might not speak much english (the one who was speaking german to you really didn&#039;t speak english, but the other waitress did). you are a step ahead of the typical tourist who only hangs out in parts of town that guarantee english comprehension. i&#039;ve been dragging you to restaurants that are actually in places where the waitstaff may have never had non-german speaking people before i showed up (our thai restaurant, the italian place on the corner, our pizza shop, the cuban place). fellas is a bit more popular but it just goes to show that you are where the locals hang. i used to find the lack of english incredibly frustrating at the beginning when i couldn&#039;t even order food, but now i find it annoying if someone switches into english for me because i want to practice my german. that said, we mostly have german speaking friends as you may have noticed. it helps me to feel less like an expat when i am invited to an event where the default language is german. oh and the trouble with &quot;Sorry, I don&#039;t speak German at all&quot; (Entschuldigung, [aber] ich spreche kein deutsch) is that it&#039;s freaking hard to pronounce for a beginner. &quot;I&#039;ll have one of ...&quot; is easier: Ich hatte gerne dass (the polite way of saying &quot;I would like that&quot;) or Ich hatte gerne einmal von diesen (&quot;I would like one of those&quot;). the tricky thing is that even with those basic phrases i&#039;ve found that people will rattle off speedy slang german expecting you to understand. sometimes it&#039;s better to stick with &quot;Ich verstehe nicht [deutsch].&quot; (I don&#039;t understand [german]). i love it here though and my german has improved exponentially since moving here (i spoke zero german when i arrived).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think it&#8217;s fabulous that you are not just visiting the country, but also hanging out in places where the waitress might not speak much english (the one who was speaking german to you really didn&#8217;t speak english, but the other waitress did). you are a step ahead of the typical tourist who only hangs out in parts of town that guarantee english comprehension. i&#8217;ve been dragging you to restaurants that are actually in places where the waitstaff may have never had non-german speaking people before i showed up (our thai restaurant, the italian place on the corner, our pizza shop, the cuban place). fellas is a bit more popular but it just goes to show that you are where the locals hang. i used to find the lack of english incredibly frustrating at the beginning when i couldn&#8217;t even order food, but now i find it annoying if someone switches into english for me because i want to practice my german. that said, we mostly have german speaking friends as you may have noticed. it helps me to feel less like an expat when i am invited to an event where the default language is german. oh and the trouble with &#8220;Sorry, I don&#8217;t speak German at all&#8221; (Entschuldigung, [aber] ich spreche kein deutsch) is that it&#8217;s freaking hard to pronounce for a beginner. &#8220;I&#8217;ll have one of &#8230;&#8221; is easier: Ich hatte gerne dass (the polite way of saying &#8220;I would like that&#8221;) or Ich hatte gerne einmal von diesen (&#8220;I would like one of those&#8221;). the tricky thing is that even with those basic phrases i&#8217;ve found that people will rattle off speedy slang german expecting you to understand. sometimes it&#8217;s better to stick with &#8220;Ich verstehe nicht [deutsch].&#8221; (I don&#8217;t understand [german]). i love it here though and my german has improved exponentially since moving here (i spoke zero german when i arrived).</p>
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		<title>By: sean bonner</title>
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		<dc:creator>sean bonner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 23:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reposting this comment just so other folks can see it too:

I kinda of agree though I&#039;ve been trying to say &quot;danke&quot; when I pay for something or am ending a transaction. I&#039;m not concerned about the conversation picking up from that point so ending it on a localized note seems nice. I know in the states I appreciate it when someone says &quot;thank you&quot; even if I&#039;ve not understood anything else they&#039;ve said. And the truth is many interactions can happen without saying anything other than specific items like you mentioned. In a coffeeshop I can order an espresso without knowing German and thanking them for bringing it doesn&#039;t seem to bad to me.

That said, I&#039;d love to be able to say, flawlessly, &quot;Sorry, I don&#039;t speak German at all&quot; and &quot;Is there any chance you speak English?&quot; and &quot;I&#039;ll have one of these&quot; (then I&#039;d point at something)

German is one of the few languages that I never studied at all so it&#039;s really hard for me try and grasp the bits and pieces. I didn&#039;t notice it really until I was in Paris (I failed French twice I think) and I could immediately pick up the topics of conversations around me, even if I couldn&#039;t respond in kind, I at least knew what people were talking about. German still sounds too similar for me to figure out different words, though I am picking up some of the written parts like you mentioned about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reposting this comment just so other folks can see it too:</p>
<p>I kinda of agree though I&#8217;ve been trying to say &#8220;danke&#8221; when I pay for something or am ending a transaction. I&#8217;m not concerned about the conversation picking up from that point so ending it on a localized note seems nice. I know in the states I appreciate it when someone says &#8220;thank you&#8221; even if I&#8217;ve not understood anything else they&#8217;ve said. And the truth is many interactions can happen without saying anything other than specific items like you mentioned. In a coffeeshop I can order an espresso without knowing German and thanking them for bringing it doesn&#8217;t seem to bad to me.</p>
<p>That said, I&#8217;d love to be able to say, flawlessly, &#8220;Sorry, I don&#8217;t speak German at all&#8221; and &#8220;Is there any chance you speak English?&#8221; and &#8220;I&#8217;ll have one of these&#8221; (then I&#8217;d point at something)</p>
<p>German is one of the few languages that I never studied at all so it&#8217;s really hard for me try and grasp the bits and pieces. I didn&#8217;t notice it really until I was in Paris (I failed French twice I think) and I could immediately pick up the topics of conversations around me, even if I couldn&#8217;t respond in kind, I at least knew what people were talking about. German still sounds too similar for me to figure out different words, though I am picking up some of the written parts like you mentioned about.</p>
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		<title>By: Eliot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eliot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 21:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I forgot to mention that I get into trouble if I don&#039;t lead off with English when ordering. For example just saying Kartoffelgnocchi without any English lead the waitress to tell me that they were out, in German.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot to mention that I get into trouble if I don&#8217;t lead off with English when ordering. For example just saying Kartoffelgnocchi without any English lead the waitress to tell me that they were out, in German.</p>
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		<title>By: Eliot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eliot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 21:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You bet your ass that&#039;s how I pronounce them!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You bet your ass that&#8217;s how I pronounce them!</p>
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		<title>By: FROSTY</title>
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		<dc:creator>FROSTY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 19:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is pronounced ass gang and ass fart, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is pronounced ass gang and ass fart, right?</p>
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